| Specification | Nominal size: 10 mm thickness x 1500 mm ordered width, Grade 2 UNS R50400 |
|---|---|
| Applicable Standard | Mating part: rolled shell course, longitudinal seam, head or adjacent course straight flange |
| Material Condition | Governing drawing: equipment drawing revision and ASTM B265 or ASME SB-265 edition named in the PO |
| Inspection & Packaging | Tolerance basis: measured mean thickness, slit width and camber, flatness, L equals pi times Dm |
| Reference Price | $8.80 – $9.00 |
Product Description: 1500 mm ordered width is not the rolled width. See how 10 mm plus tolerance, slit edge and flatness move the mean diameter of a Gr2 shell at fit-up
A 10 mm by 1500 mm Grade 2 Titanium Plate to ASTM B265 is delivered as an ordered width, not necessarily the width the mill rolled. The flat blank length must be computed on the mean diameter: L equals pi times Dm, with Dm equal to the inside diameter plus the measured thickness, or the outside diameter minus that thickness. Computing the blank from the outside diameter alone makes it too long by pi times t, 31.4 mm on a 10 mm plate. Our ASTM B265 plate specification guide, our ordering-by-end-use page and our receiving-weight guide settle identity, standard and settlement; this article works the dimension chain when that plate is rolled into a shell course.
Published charts disagree on thickness band, width tolerance, flatness and camber, so we publish the conflict, eight fit-up rejection triggers and one 14-line verification sheet instead of one invented number. Our B265 plate and sheet page gives the specification context and our plate ordering guide gives the buying context; the drawing revision and the named standard edition govern.
| Item | What the decision turns on |
|---|---|
| The short answer | 1500 mm is an ordered width, not necessarily the width the mill rolled; a nominal size is not a fit |
| The governing identity | Blank length L equals pi times Dm; Dm equals ID plus measured thickness, or OD minus that thickness |
| The 31.4 mm trap | Computing the blank from outside diameter alone makes it too long by pi times t, 31.4 mm on 10 mm plate |
| Where plus tolerance goes | Measured thickness above nominal 10 mm shifts the finished ID or OD at the longitudinal seam |
| The width question | Slit width tolerance, edge camber and edge quality decide whether the course ends and the seam line up |
| The flatness question | Out-of-flat plate eats the bevel machining allowance before the joint is ever welded |
| The conflict | Published charts disagree on thickness band, width tolerance, flatness and camber; we publish the conflict, not one value |
| The one document | A 14-line Plate-to-Shell Fit-Up and Dimension Chain Verification Sheet: check, basis, method, criterion, who signs |
Our Grade 2 B265 supplier page gives the grade context and our EN 10204 3.1 mill certificate page shows a traceable thickness record. A stockholder can certify a heat number, not a blank length it did not calculate for your drawing.
The 1500 on a purchase order is a finished, ordered width, not automatically the width that came off the mill. A wider mother plate or coil may be slit or sheared to 1500 mm, and published charts give mill width and slit width different tolerances. Our plate thickness and form classification page separates the product forms and our plate sheet and coil page shows the wider coil context; treat 1500 mm as a cut result.
An ordered width carries a cutting tolerance, and a slit edge has its own width tolerance, camber, squareness and burr condition that the mill certificate rarely states. Those are fit-up inputs, not material identity. Our zero-cutting and small-batch plate page covers how non-standard widths are produced, and our process equipment buyers guide gives the vessel context.
An ordered width is a cutting result with its own tolerance and edge condition. Name whether 1500 mm is a rolled width or a slit width before you use it as a geometric input.
What matters is the measured width at both edges and mid-length plus the edge condition along the full length, and whether the named edition treats 1500 mm as a mill or a slit width. Our Titanium Plate range lists the product; the drawing revision decides how the width is used.
A rolled cylinder is laid out from one identity: the blank length L equals pi times Dm, where Dm equals the finished inside diameter plus the plate thickness, or the outside diameter minus that thickness, and pi is about 3.14159. This is geometry, not tolerance. It becomes a dimension chain because t is the measured mean thickness of the plate you cut, not the nominal 10 mm on the order.
Grade 2 plate is commonly described on our Grade 2 B265 plate page as carrying an asymmetric thickness tolerance with a larger plus side. Measured mean thickness above nominal grows the mean diameter and the required blank length by pi times that deviation; with a fixed blank a thicker plate gives a smaller inside and a larger outside diameter.
If the drawing controls the inside diameter, an under-run ID is the failure; if it controls the outside, an over-run OD drives hi-lo at the circumferential joint. The plus tolerance travels from the thickness gauge into the diameter and the seam. Our B265 plate and sheet page states the specification context and our GB versus ASTM B265 comparison shows the governing edition must be named first.
The common layout error is the wrong diameter in the formula. Computing the blank from the outside diameter makes it too long by pi times t, 31.4 mm on a 10 mm plate; using the inside diameter makes it short by the same amount. Both grow with thickness. These are deterministic arithmetic results, not supplier figures.
A blank too long overlaps and is trimmed and re-bevelled; a blank too short leaves a gap that cannot be pulled together without forcing the roll. Either way the geometric error becomes a fit-up error at the seam. Our what a B16.5 flange hides makes the parallel point, and our WPS and NDT qualification guide shows a weld procedure is qualified separately from the geometry that feeds it.
The neutral axis is an assumption: rolling places it at mid-thickness, press-brake bends use a K-factor near 0.35 to 0.45, and some procedures add an elongation term. We will not print one elongation figure as correct; measure the first-article circumference and close the assumption. Our GTAW shielding guide applies the same discipline at the root pass.
A mean-diameter layout is a calculation; a fit shell is a measurement. Confirm the blank against a measured first-article circumference before the whole course is cut.
Which edge becomes the circumference
Only one edge of the plate becomes the circumference: typically the long dimension is cut to L and rolled while 1500 mm becomes the axial course height, though nesting can rotate that by ninety degrees. Our cut-to-size plate stock page and our same-day cut-to-size plate page describe how the blank is produced; the development sheet decides which dimension is critical.
Width tolerance, edge camber and edge quality at the seam
The ordered width carries a one-sided plus tolerance and an edge camber over a stated length; a bowed edge makes the course ends miss a common line and the seam wander. A burr or heat-affected lip must be removed before bevelling or it becomes a root defect. Our WPS and NDT qualification guide and our GTAW shielding guide cover the joint and the root; width and edge condition are the geometry that feeds them.
Flatness as a machining allowance for the bevel
Flatness is not cosmetic once a bevel must be machined: a wavy edge presents a varying stock height, so the bevel angle, root face and land drift along the joint. Published flatness figures disagree, so treat the measured out-of-flat value as machining allowance to remove before bevelling. Our plate sheet and coil page gives the form context and our dimensional standard article shows a standard leaves mating geometry to the drawing.
Ask several sources for the tolerance on a 10 mm plate and you get a spread, not one table: charts divide thickness bands differently and quote symmetric versus asymmetric bands. Presenting any single figure as the correct ASTM B265 value would be false precision. The table below is secondary, not the controlling edition; the governing value is the one named in the purchase order read with the drawing revision.
| Quantity | Figures in conflict | Why they disagree | What to confirm |
|---|---|---|---|
| Thickness band near 10 mm | One chart quotes plus or minus 0.20 mm over a 4.76 to 12.7 mm band; another quotes plus or minus 0.25 mm over 4.80 to 6.35 mm; our own page describes an asymmetric band with a larger plus side | Different band edges, symmetric versus asymmetric, different editions and conditions | Named edition, product form, condition and the measured mean thickness |
| Plate width tolerance | One chart quotes about plus 6.4 mm over zero for plate; our own page quotes plus 10 to plus 25 mm depending on finished width; slit-strip tables use different values again | Mill width versus slit width, plate versus strip, unit systems | Whether 1500 mm is a mill width or a slit width, and the named edition table |
| Flatness | One chart quotes 1.5 percent of length for plate; another quotes 2 percent for sheet; our own page quotes a maximum millimetres-per-metre figure for plate under 10 mm | Different reference lengths, product forms and delivery conditions | Governing drawing clause, measuring base and the bevel allowance |
| Edge camber | One chart quotes 5 mm in 2 m for strip or sheet; slit-strip tables quote a value per 300 mm and coil tables another per 300 mm | Different gauge lengths and product forms | Gauge length, product form and the seam straightness criterion |
| Neutral axis and rolling elongation | Rolling practice assumes K near 0.5; press-brake work uses 0.35 to 0.45; some procedures add an elongation allowance that depends on roll count and cold or hot state | Forming method, machine type and temperature | First-article measured circumference against the qualified rolling procedure |
Our B265 specification page and our GB versus ASTM B265 comparison show why the edition must be named, and our mill certificate page shows the measured thickness that anchors the calculation. Where figures disagree, the measured plate and the signed verification sheet decide.
Whether a plate is settled by area or by weighbridge mass is a commercial question, not a fit-up question; it belongs to the receiving line our receiving-weight guide, our plate weight calculator and our export documentation FAQ already cover. That line decides what the buyer pays; this line decides whether the plate assembles, and a pass on one does not grant a pass on the other.
A plate can be on weight and still fail fit-up. Theoretical mass uses a density near 4.51 grams per cubic centimetre, but mass is an aggregate that cannot see a thickness peak, a bowed edge or a wavy bevel land. A uniformly plus-side plate may be commercially acceptable and geometrically wrong for a fixed blank length. Those are two records with two sign-offs.
The settlement file holds the purchase order, weighbridge ticket and certificate; the fit-up file holds the drawing revision, measured mean thickness, development calculation, width and camber record, flatness and bevel measurements and the signed 14-line sheet. Our hydrostatic test water guide is a downstream gate, not a substitute. When an enquiry asks whether to buy by area or by weight we point to the settlement line; when it asks whether the course will close on the head we work the dimension chain, with our process equipment buyers guide giving the vessel context.
The blank length L must equal pi times Dm using the measured mean thickness from a mapped ultrasonic survey, not the nominal 10 mm or the outside diameter; an unmeasured thickness is a hold. Our Grade 2 B265 plate page gives the product context.
Confirm whether the drawing controls the inside or outside diameter and measure the rolled course at several stations, because a thicker plate on a fixed blank shifts the controlled diameter. Our B265 specification page names the edition.
Measure width at both ends and mid-length plus edge camber over the stated gauge length; a width without its mill-or-slit basis and a straightness figure is incomplete evidence. Our zero-cutting plate page describes how the width was produced.
Examine both long edges before bevelling and record the edge-preparation step; burr, a shear-affected lip and laminations become root defects or gap variation. Our WPS and NDT qualification guide covers the joint record.
Measure flatness on a surface plate against the drawing clause and confirm the stock left for machining; a wavy edge that consumes the bevel allowance drifts the bevel angle, root face and land. Our plate sheet and coil page gives the form context.
Measure the offset between the course and the mating part around the full circumference, not at one clock position, because a small longitudinal-seam error compounds into circumferential misalignment. Our what a dimensional standard hides makes the parallel point.
Any change of heat, thickness band, ordered width or form resets the measured thickness feeding the blank length, so re-run the calculation and re-cut; a substitute cut to the old blank length is a reject. Our ordering-by-end-use page separates buying from fit-up.
Reconcile every cut blank, rolled course and weld against the heat number, the drawing revision and the signed 14-line sheet; a course whose thickness map cannot be rebuilt is a reject regardless of a clean certificate. Our EN 10204 3.1 certificate page shows what the mill record proves.
| # | Fit-up check | Basis drawing or standard edition | Measurement method | Acceptance criterion | Who signs |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Standard edition, grade and condition named | Purchase order and MTC | Document review | One designation with revision | Buyer QA |
| 2 | Measured mean thickness t, not nominal 10 mm | MTC and plate marking | Calibrated ultrasonic gauge, mapped points | Mean logged and used in the layout | Fabrication inspector |
| 3 | Plus thickness tolerance band identified | B265 or SB-265 edition in the PO | Check the named edition table | Band named and deviation carried into the calculation | Fabricator engineer |
| 4 | Design diameter basis, ID or OD | Equipment drawing revision | Drawing review | Basis stated as ID or OD controlled | Design engineer |
| 5 | Mean diameter Dm equals ID plus t or OD minus t | Approved development calculation | Independent recalculation | Formula, pi value and result agree | Fabricator engineer |
| 6 | Blank length L equals pi times Dm | Development sheet and cutting plan | Tape or laser check against the cut blank | Cut length matches calculated length | Fabrication inspector |
| 7 | pi times t cross-check, 31.4 mm at 10 mm | Development sheet | Independent recalculation | Outside-diameter error excluded | Fabricator engineer |
| 8 | Rolling elongation and K-factor assumption | Rolling procedure card, roll count, cold or hot state | First-article circumference after rolling | Assumption closed against a measured first article | Rolling supervisor |
| 9 | Ordered 1500 mm width versus mill or slit width | Purchase order and slitting or cutting record | Parent coil or plate width record | Ordered width separated from rolled width | Buyer QA |
| 10 | Width tolerance, edge camber and squareness | Drawing and named standard edition | Straightedge and string line per stated length | Course ends align, camber inside criterion | Fabrication inspector |
| 11 | Edge quality, burr and heat-affected zone | Edge preparation and bevel procedure | Visual and surface check, PT where specified | Bevel zone clean and defects removed | Welding inspector |
| 12 | Flatness and the bevel machining allowance | Drawing flatness clause and standard edition | Surface plate with feeler or straightedge | Machining allowance is sufficient | Machining supervisor |
| 13 | Bevel angle, root face and root gap at fit-up | WPS and joint detail | Angle gauge, feeler gauge and fit-up clamps | Seam gap and hi-lo inside criterion | Welding inspector |
| 14 | Cumulative hi-lo to head, adjacent course or flange | General arrangement and dimension chain | Measure circumference and offset after fit-up | Cumulative offset inside criterion, hold released | Quality lead and buyer |
Line two is often answered with a nominal 10 mm instead of a measured mean. Our mill certificate page and our receiving-weight guide separate material and settlement evidence, our export documentation FAQ covers the paperwork, and our equipment leak repair guide shows the cost of an undocumented joint. A sheet without a signature column is a note, not a record.
These cost little at planning and a great deal after a course is fitted to a head. We are a stockholder, not the author of your drawing; where supplier charts disagree we give the disagreement and the action. Our hydrostatic test guide is a later gate, not a substitute for the fit-up record.
Choose a nominal-thickness layout with a signed development sheet if:
Escalate to a fit-up hold or a drawing review if:
Choose a re-measured layout and a re-cut if:
The whole subject reduces to one sentence: a nominal size is not a fit, because the drawing tells you what to order while the tolerance chain tells you whether the course will assemble. Send the grade, standard edition, nominal and measured thickness, ordered width and its mill-or-slit basis, control diameter, drawing revision and joint detail. We are a Baoji China Titanium Valley stockholder with roughly 800 tonnes in stock, about 400 tonnes in plate, cutting to non-standard and small-batch sizes from customer drawings. Send the shell drawing and the thickness map. Request a quote →
Use the measured mean thickness from a mapped ultrasonic survey, not the nominal 10 mm. The developed length L equals pi times Dm, and Dm equals the inside diameter plus the measured thickness, or the outside diameter minus that thickness. Grade 2 plate commonly carries a plus-side thickness tolerance, so the measured value can sit above nominal. If you cut the blank to a length computed from 10 mm, the finished inside or outside diameter shifts by that deviation at the longitudinal seam. Confirm the control diameter and the measured thickness against the drawing revision and the standard edition named in the purchase order.
It is an ordered width, which is not necessarily the width the mill rolled, and the drawing decides how it is used. In a typical shell course the long dimension is cut to the developed length and rolled into the circumference, while the 1500 mm width becomes the axial course height. Nesting can rotate that by ninety degrees. A wider mother plate or coil may be slit or sheared to 1500 mm, so the delivered width carries a cutting tolerance, an edge camber and an edge condition. Confirm the mill-or-slit basis and which edge becomes the circumference before treating 1500 mm as a geometric input.
It makes the blank longer than the true mean-diameter circumference by pi times t. Pi is about 3.14159, so on a 10 mm plate the surplus is about 31.4 mm, and the error grows with thickness. Using the inside diameter alone makes the blank short by the same amount. These are deterministic arithmetic results, not supplier tolerance figures. A blank that is too long forces trimming and re-bevelling at the longitudinal seam; a blank that is too short leaves a gap that cannot be pulled together without changing ovality. Compute L from the mean diameter and confirm it against a measured first-article circumference.
With a fixed blank length, a thicker plate gives a smaller inside diameter and a larger outside diameter than the nominal calculation predicts. If the drawing controls the inside diameter because internals, a lining or a volume must fit, the under-run inside diameter is the failure. If the course must match a standard head, a flange straight flange or an adjacent course on the outside, the over-run outside diameter drives hi-lo at the circumferential joint. The plus tolerance therefore travels from the thickness gauge into the diameter, then into the seam and the head interface. Re-measure the rolled course and re-check the control basis rather than accepting the nominal figure.
Yes. Any change of heat, thickness band, ordered width or coil-versus-plate form resets the measured thickness that feeds the development calculation. Re-run L equals pi times Dm with the new measured mean thickness, re-cut the blank, re-check the mill-or-slit width basis and re-issue the 14-line verification sheet before rolling. A substitute plate cut to the old blank length is a reject even if the mill certificate is clean. Keep the heat number tied to the new calculation and photograph identity before and after cutting.
The machining supervisor signs the flatness and bevel-allowance check against the drawing clause, and the welding inspector signs the edge-quality, burr and heat-affected-zone check against the edge-preparation procedure and the joint detail. Flatness is not cosmetic: a wavy edge changes the stock height presented to the bevelling tool, so the bevel angle, root face and land drift along the joint. Published flatness figures disagree, so name the governing drawing clause and the standard edition, measure out-of-flat on a surface plate and confirm that enough machining allowance remains.
No. They are two independent check lines at two gates. The receiving line decides what the buyer pays, using the purchase order, the weighbridge ticket or area calculation and the certificate; the question of area versus weight settlement belongs there. The fit-up line decides whether the plate assembles, using the drawing revision, the measured mean thickness, the development calculation, the width and camber record, the bevel measurements and the signed verification sheet. A plate can be on weight and still fail fit-up, and a well-fitted course can still be disputed at the weighbridge. A pass on one does not grant a pass on the other.
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